Question on Programming Fighting games on the Mega Drive
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Question on Programming Fighting games on the Mega Drive
Hi, I'm completely new to this nice place, and I have a question:
I want to learn how to program a Fighting game for the Mega Drive (Seeing on how Fatal Fury 1 & 2, Art of Fighting 1, and King of the Monsters 1 & 2 were made on the Mega Drive). I want to make a port of Garou: Mark of the Wolves to the Mega Drive, and I want to know how long It takes to program a fighting game for the Sega Mega Drive.
So, are there any SDK's for programming Mega Drive fighting games?
I want to learn how to program a Fighting game for the Mega Drive (Seeing on how Fatal Fury 1 & 2, Art of Fighting 1, and King of the Monsters 1 & 2 were made on the Mega Drive). I want to make a port of Garou: Mark of the Wolves to the Mega Drive, and I want to know how long It takes to program a fighting game for the Sega Mega Drive.
So, are there any SDK's for programming Mega Drive fighting games?
There is no SDK for certain type of games, and no information about programming game of certain genre for certain platform as well. Programming for platform, game programming and specific genre is absolutely independent themes.
If you know nothing about programming, it take many years. If you have good low-level programming skills, but you have no experience with SMD, it take few years. If you are genius, you'll maybe done this in less than year.
If you know nothing about programming, it take many years. If you have good low-level programming skills, but you have no experience with SMD, it take few years. If you are genius, you'll maybe done this in less than year.
No offense, but there's no way anybody will ever port Garou Mark of the Wolves to the Megadrive. That game used something like 800mbits, the Megadrive can't even address 1/20 of that size.
If it is ported, it would have to be downgraded at exorbital levels - to the point that it's a completely different game.
If it is ported, it would have to be downgraded at exorbital levels - to the point that it's a completely different game.
For today, ~128MB cart (using banking) is not so big problem. In any case, a lot of downgrade would be necessary to fit in the VRAM limitations.Huge wrote:No offense, but there's no way anybody will ever port Garou Mark of the Wolves to the Megadrive. That game used something like 800mbits, the Megadrive can't even address 1/20 of that size.
I don't know if you've played it, but Garou has near Street Fighter 3 level animation. By playing it from vram, you'd have to downgrade animation to absymal levels. Maybe you could do more by streaming animations from the cart, but that will only work if you can get all character gfx stored into one 4mb bank.Shiru wrote:For today, ~128MB cart (using banking) is not so big problem. In any case, a lot of downgrade would be necessary to fit in the VRAM limitations.Huge wrote:No offense, but there's no way anybody will ever port Garou Mark of the Wolves to the Megadrive. That game used something like 800mbits, the Megadrive can't even address 1/20 of that size.
*maybe* you could get it done on the Saturn with the 4mb cart, but even that would be very ambitious.
I have played it a lot, and actually I can't say it near SFIII. Nobody says that all animation frames must be fit into VRAM, only BG and two current frames, but even this would require a lot of downgrade.
Saturn with 4 MB cart must store all animation frames of two characters in those 4 MB, so SMD, being cartridge-based system, has sort of advantage.
Saturn with 4 MB cart must store all animation frames of two characters in those 4 MB, so SMD, being cartridge-based system, has sort of advantage.
Yeah, that's why I tried at first my Mega Multi Fighter (an old demo is on the Demo part of this forum). I'm still working on it, I've solve a lot of bugs and now I'm working on the input part (to have combo and special).ob1 wrote:The fonz has made some tries with huge sprites decompressing. See his site.
But to do a garou or sfiii it's nearly impossible, n) ..I don't know if in my game I can have a backgroud level + 2 characters + special (like an hadoke..
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You can transfer 14KBytes of tiles into VRAM a single frame in 50Hz (though much less in 60Hz)... lot of things can be achieved IMO
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I think it's still possible, but you're right... it'd be like what Takara did to Neo-Geo gamesHuge wrote:No offense, but there's no way anybody will ever port Garou Mark of the Wolves to the Megadrive. That game used something like 800mbits, the Megadrive can't even address 1/20 of that size.
If it is ported, it would have to be downgraded at exorbital levels - to the point that it's a completely different game.
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SFII came out for the Genny so I would think you could do a pretty decent SFIII version.ElBarto wrote:Yeah, that's why I tried at first my Mega Multi Fighter (an old demo is on the Demo part of this forum). I'm still working on it, I've solve a lot of bugs and now I'm working on the input part (to have combo and special).ob1 wrote:The fonz has made some tries with huge sprites decompressing. See his site.
But to do a garou or sfiii it's nearly impossible, n) ..I don't know if in my game I can have a backgroud level + 2 characters + special (like an hadoke..
My point was that, SF3 was not that much of a difference than SF2 as far as graphics so I think you could do a decent job of it for the Genesis. SF4 is a different story... Having some friends who live and breathe SF, graphics is not always their big concern, it's playability and matchups between the different characters. I would love to reverse/disassemble SF for the Genesis just to look at the joypad logic as it's the heart of all the SF games.