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I've been using TFM for quite a while now and it works great, but one thing that I could never get to work like I wanted to is the feedback effect.
When I use an instrument with 'built-in' feedback, it doesn't revert back to it's original form when a new note is triggered but 'keeps going' so to speak. Any way to work around that without changing channel between notes? And is that how it's supposed to work?
I know there's the command, but when it is used the tracker slows down to a crawl so I haven't been able to try it that way.
Another thing I should point out is that the .vgm conversion is pretty unstable, it often makes the track skip beats or play unintended sounds. Happens maybe 20% of the time for me.
Finally here are some tunes made with the program:
http://8bitcollective.com/music/AlexLut ... 26+psg%29/
http://8bitcollective.com/music/AlexLut ... ck+(demo)/
http://8bitcollective.com/music/AlexLut ... +Extended/
http://8bitcollective.com/music/AlexLut ... Ring+King/
When I use an instrument with 'built-in' feedback, it doesn't revert back to it's original form when a new note is triggered but 'keeps going' so to speak. Any way to work around that without changing channel between notes? And is that how it's supposed to work?
I know there's the command, but when it is used the tracker slows down to a crawl so I haven't been able to try it that way.
Another thing I should point out is that the .vgm conversion is pretty unstable, it often makes the track skip beats or play unintended sounds. Happens maybe 20% of the time for me.
Finally here are some tunes made with the program:
http://8bitcollective.com/music/AlexLut ... 26+psg%29/
http://8bitcollective.com/music/AlexLut ... ck+(demo)/
http://8bitcollective.com/music/AlexLut ... +Extended/
http://8bitcollective.com/music/AlexLut ... Ring+King/
Feedback is not 'built-in' or 'built-out', it's a capability of the operator 0 to modulate itself. It's a static parameter, it does not change over time. Only thing that changes over time is the operators envelopes, and envelope does not resets with new note. It's all the hardware-defined behaviour.Alex Luthor wrote:When I use an instrument with 'built-in' feedback, it doesn't revert back to it's original form when a new note is triggered but 'keeps going' so to speak. Any way to work around that without changing channel between notes? And is that how it's supposed to work?
Maybe you're using wrong effect, Fxx instead of EFx?Alex Luthor wrote:I know there's the command, but when it is used the tracker slows down to a crawl so I haven't been able to try it that way.
It's known problem, I can't fix this. It does not happen on my computers.Alex Luthor wrote:Another thing I should point out is that the .vgm conversion is pretty unstable
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Ok, that's not what I meant though. I want the instrument to go back to "feedback level 0" with every note triggered, instead it keeps going to whatever the instrument was set to. I really don't know how much simpler I could explain it without showing it.
It actually worked now when I tried it ( I wasn't using Fxx, I know that would change the tempo). This just made the program lag like hell so I can barely use it. still, using the command seems to have a weird effect on some instruments so the above method is preferable.
It might be my comp but it should be powerful enough for a prog like this.
It actually worked now when I tried it ( I wasn't using Fxx, I know that would change the tempo). This just made the program lag like hell so I can barely use it. still, using the command seems to have a weird effect on some instruments so the above method is preferable.
It might be my comp but it should be powerful enough for a prog like this.
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If you want to have feedback level other than defined in the instrument settings, you must use EFx effect. You also can make another instrument with feedback level which you need.Alex Luthor wrote:Ok, that's not what I meant though. I want the instrument to go back to "feedback level 0" with every note triggered, instead it keeps going to whatever the instrument was set to. I really don't know how much simpler I could explain it without showing it.
How can I answer anything if you didn't provide specs of your comp? All I can say, Celeron 1.7 is enough, and slower CPU's probably would be enough too, but they would require larger sound buffer (see Editor/WaveOut).Alex Luthor wrote:It might be my comp but it should be powerful enough for a prog like this.
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ChillyWilly: Ok, chill Willy. Can't a noob ask for help in this forum? I'm not asking what feedback is, how it works or whatever.
shiru: I was just thinking out loud but okay, I'm using a laptop with 2Ghz cpu so it should be fine.
Yes and how do I change it without making it sound different yet still achieving what I want? That is what I've been asking about.Chilly Willy wrote:Change the instrument.
shiru: I was just thinking out loud but okay, I'm using a laptop with 2Ghz cpu so it should be fine.
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I gotta say, as soon as i figured out how to use this thing(note: this was the first tracker i've ever used) i fell in love with it. I am very much improving with it as well, which is nice, and it makes it even more enjoyable to use!
I'm rather looking forward to the one with PSG and DAC support, so i can do very authentic sounding complete tracks and even sample my own drums into DAC to suit my own taste.
But i do not encourage any rush, if it takes time, take all the time you need Shiru.
Many thanks to ya for making this sweet ass tracker!
Edit: Also, any way possible to make stereo tracks? If so, spill it!
I'm rather looking forward to the one with PSG and DAC support, so i can do very authentic sounding complete tracks and even sample my own drums into DAC to suit my own taste.
But i do not encourage any rush, if it takes time, take all the time you need Shiru.
Many thanks to ya for making this sweet ass tracker!
Edit: Also, any way possible to make stereo tracks? If so, spill it!
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E8x, does that mean you put E81/E82/ on where those three dots are on each channel? Actually, i think i've heard you mention this one before. E81 will make it come out of the left speaker, E82 out of right speaker, is that correct?
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Get a VGM plugin for Winamp and use Winamp. You can get the plugin from SMSpower!.
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you have to export a VGM and use some VGM player to get the Stereo.... ?
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