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Space Hawks - Sega Megadrive unofficial port

Post by KanedaFr » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:58 am

This week I uploaded a video of my at last (almost) finished port Space Hawks.
It's a CPC game I played a lot when I was a child....and never reached the end !
It's an almost 1to1 port since I re CPC game to get logic, assets and sounds and converted all of this for the Genny.
I started it on November 14, for french Retro Gaming Convention.
I finished it on November 15, for RGC too but was lacking sound...so i didn't demoed it
With GenRes last version, I finally was able to add sounds (including the infamous Star Wars rip off theme)


Available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZjXH1oTS58


the ROM isn't available because I need your advice :

Since it's a CPC port, without assets redrawn, it feels more like a 8 bit game than a 16 bit with blast processing!
Several options are available :
  • release it like this, it's a homebrew, we don't care about assets !
  • keep it private, the game isn't for Sega Megadrive
  • redraw the assets with all the colors available, and not only 8 => artist wanted ! expect a release mid 2016
  • make a bi-mode version, like Oh Mummy with classic (current version) and 16 bit one => artist wanted too ;) expect a release end 2016
  • release some limited copies to pay SpritesMind fees
  • insert-your-option-here
What do you think I should do ?


Ps: About the delay, it's because I have 3 others more importants projects which need more love ;)

EDIT: added an other option

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Re: Space Hawks - Sega Megadrive unofficial port

Post by Sik » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:38 am

Eh, adding more colors is not that hard even if you aren't an artist, assuming it's just reshading (hello there floodfill!). That isn't any harder than sprite editing in a hack.

You'll want an artist if you want to redraw the graphics from scratch though.

EDIT: maybe if you wait until I get my laptop back? I could try taking it a look (can't now). Not like I can come up with whole new epic title screens or something like that, but I guess I can do some sprite editing. Please use PNG files with the same palette as is used in-game though... (that's what mdtiler likes best)
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Post by KanedaFr » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:38 pm

I already tried some gfx .... I'm really NOT good at this ;)

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Re: Space Hawks - Sega Megadrive unofficial port

Post by SegaTim » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:47 pm

Wow!

Release it like this or make a bi-mode version.

I wait!

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Re: Space Hawks - Sega Megadrive unofficial port

Post by nolddor » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:14 pm

Such as Oh mummy, IMO you should make a bi-mode.

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Post by Sik » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:51 pm

OK finally got around being able to watch the video and huh yeah forget my reshading idea (unless you were like to use two shades in place of every color). Doesn't seem to be that much trouble to rework though, even something simple will probably look better than that.

Also oh gosh wide letters x_x
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Re: Space Hawks - Sega Megadrive unofficial port

Post by MintyTheCat » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:38 am

I feel that this is not up to the standard of being a game that you could charge people for but perhaps show them the sourcecode or do some articles to act as a tutorial.
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Post by SegaTim » Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:06 pm

KanedaFr, You use BasiEgaXorz?

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Re: Space Hawks - Sega Megadrive unofficial port

Post by KanedaFr » Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:05 pm

ah ah ;)
while this game is "basic", I don't use basic
pure C and some inline asm (yes, even in that)

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Re: Space Hawks - Sega Megadrive unofficial port

Post by cero » Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:07 am

You can't really sell it without permission, it's still under copyright, and they have an active port on Android at least.

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Re: Space Hawks - Sega Megadrive unofficial port

Post by MintyTheCat » Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:39 pm

cero wrote:You can't really sell it without permission, it's still under copyright, and they have an active port on Android at least.
He could not sell that any way - who on Earth would buy that for actual $?

You need to sort your collisions out - they are waaay off.
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Post by KanedaFr » Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:52 pm

I can't sell it as mass product because I don't own the right, for sure
But what about a small homebrew release (<20 copies) to pay SM fees and future projects ?

if you talk about this Android port:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... awks&hl=fr
i could say it's 100% based on my own works
http://arhackde.spritesmind.net/index.php?page=shawks
I even tweeted about its release on my own channel.


Oh, and collision works the way it works on original game.
It seems off because the shot isn't moving 1 tile at a time, like on CPC.

On a dev point of view, it was fun to
- handle 16px wide font
- play with raster on the hiscore screen (I only use 1 font and 1 pal !)
- code some "sprite group" entity


I personally enjoyed developing this, totally aware of its "ugly-face" but taking the time to fix any issues and to get a 'perfect' port (bugs included).
I'm proud of it and I really would like to make a 'Oh-Mummy 2 in 1' like port but I hadn't the money nor the time for this....

Next time, i'll keep it for me ;)

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Re: Space Hawks - Sega Megadrive unofficial port

Post by cero » Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:38 pm

Any commercial use infringes, being small-scale doesn't change anything.

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Post by KanedaFr » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:17 pm

Sure, even 1 copie is illegal
but in that case, is it really "commercial" ?
I didn't make that port to get money
I made that port for fun and get the idea to sell it (yes, I know, sell is the keyword) to pay fees and others, not to get money on my bank account ...
I suppose I should at least ask for permission...

but if i want to be totally legal, releasing the rom, even freely, is illegal no ?
even worse, I could be charged when China boys will sell the carts, no ?

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Re: Space Hawks - Sega Megadrive unofficial port

Post by cero » Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:25 am

Yes to both. However, many authors and companies won't bother to sue until the infringement turns commercial.

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