Coding language

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What language do you use ?

ASM only
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C only
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BasicEga
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Lot of C, little bit of ASM
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Lot of ASM, little bit of C
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Coding language

Post by ob1 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:21 am

I know for some of you (TmEE, Kaneda, Stef, Fonz, ...) , but precisely ...

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Post by Pascal » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:19 am

i'm using asm only with snasm68k ;)

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Post by TmEE co.(TM) » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:59 am

Same here !!! I would have used BAX, but I couldn't get it running and I don't know C so ASM it is
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Post by Edge-` » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:03 pm

I'm currently using C (XGCC). A lot easier for me to understand for some reason.
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Post by stalepie » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:11 pm

I haven't made much progress, but I was planning on ASM only.

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Post by LocalH » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:47 am

100% ASM baby. Oldskool-style.

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Post by cdoty » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:47 am

I did asm only for a long time. With Frog Feast, I switched to C with a lot of asm functions. Which is ironic, since I once said "I wouldn't even consider programming the Genesis in C".

It is much easier to do game logic and user interaction programming in C, and system level stuff in asm. And, it made the game a lot more portable. Once the low level stuff is written, the C stuff works with almost no changes.

Frog Feast isn't the best system for an action packed game, but could easily be modified to do it.

The biggest problem with the Frog Feast way is that it allows the game to control updates and stuff, it would be better if the system controlled the updates, and only called the C code for game logic and input.

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Post by Stef » Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:28 pm

I'm for a lot of C mixed with some ASM part (where insame optimisation is needed :p)
C is a more confortable language, cleaner and easier to read for almost people (well, not all obviously).

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Post by Fonzie » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:03 pm

Same, i use C only... But for mad things like segacd bios jumping or rom header, i had to use ASM.

And Pascal may confirm that GCC generates a pretty fast code, probably as fast as ASM for average code, isn't it? ;)

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Post by Pascal » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:37 am

yup, i confirm, GCC code generation is really impressive, even better than my poor asm code ^_^

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Post by Stef » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:52 am

Well to be honest i don't think the GCC 68k code generation is that good.
It's correct but we can definitly do better job by hand on critical part and sometime we need to help C compiler (as the i = num; while(i--) {...}; for dbcc use)
Anyway i find it's sufficient in almost case. It's why i choose "a lot of C, litlle of ASM" :)

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Post by Pascal » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:55 am

Stef wrote:Well to be honest i don't think the GCC 68k code generation is that good.
It's correct but we can definitly do better job by hand on critical part and sometime we need to help C compiler (as the i = num; while(i--) {...}; for dbcc use)
Anyway i find it's sufficient in almost case. It's why i choose "a lot of C, litlle of ASM" :)
as i said i'm weak in asm ^_^ i only checked a single routine

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Post by Stef » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:37 am

Pascal wrote:
Stef wrote:Well to be honest i don't think the GCC 68k code generation is that good.
It's correct but we can definitly do better job by hand on critical part and sometime we need to help C compiler (as the i = num; while(i--) {...}; for dbcc use)
Anyway i find it's sufficient in almost case. It's why i choose "a lot of C, litlle of ASM" :)
as i said i'm weak in asm ^_^ i only checked a single routine
Anyway as soon we know the tricks in C to help the compiler, generated code is efficient, not the best code but very good at least :)

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Post by ob1 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:15 am

Stef wrote:generated code is efficient, not the best code but very good at least :)
+1
although I'm an ASM-only guy !!!

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Where is Forth?

Post by Inigo Montoya » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:11 am

Am I the only person who uses Forth? Low memory machines are where it really excels. If only I could get my compiler working... Oh well I just have to use asm for now. I can get the exact same results in asm anyway its just a pain in the ass, and not interactive. Do any emulators support keybords?

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