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Hi, I thought writing worked but reading didn't. So, Mamono Hunter Youko doesn't seem to be doing anything wrong. stay safe, AamirM No, it's completely blocked in both directions. I think Sega did this on purpose. It definitely *did* work on some early hardware. But given that it was probably a ver...

TmEE co.(TM) wrote:Real YM2612 sounds one way (poorer)

Blasphemy!

Certainly, with your audio mod, an MD2 sounds better - but without it - ugh.

But with a similar audio mod I think you'd find a real YM2612 doesn't sound much different, if it all.

Eke wrote:exactly what I noticed
the second sound seemed weird into my hear but if you can confirm it happens on real hw also, that's fine

Yeah. It seems you're meant to hear a 'splash' when you are out of the water, and that other slightly odd sound when you're under it.

sorry, I forget to ask: could you do a recording of Ecco: the Tide of Time 's splash sound (first level, do some jump out of the water, Gens is reproducing the sound more realistic than other emulators though I don't know if realistic=reality) thanks again Kega has this game 100% correct. In fact, ...

That's what I've been doing since 1997 Little bugger still has secrets.

Not quite. The Chinese often do. Yeah, I know. I just love these chips and the thought of even one being destroyed, for any reason... *shudder* this must be something else going on Yep. Doesn't make any sense at all, does it? I'd like to hear this particular sound from a known completely unmodified...

SmartOne wrote:What is it called again where you crack open an integrated circuit and die the bits to obtain a 100% accurate representation of what goes on? Expensive, but intriguing?

Murder.

This is why I think for all ym2612 tests on real hardware, data should be captured as soon as it exits the dac on the ym2612 chip Indeed. But most YM chips output digitally to an external DAC. The YM2612 has the DAC and other things internally. There is some filtering that goes on BEFORE the signal...

Out of interest, you wouldn't happen to know what he tested on? Some real board containing a 2203? Or did he build something?

I'd *love* a custom made device containing several Yamaha chips

As I said, these sounds will have been created on an original NTSC Genesis 1. Therefore however it sounds on one of those is how it was intended to sound. This particular story gets even more interesting. I had someone test it on an NTSC Genesis 2. Guess what? It sounds pretty much exactly the same ...

I imagine that Jarek already knew all this stuff anyway.

No. Its just this game. Well as you can clearly hear from the samples now provided, the later chips are quite different to the original. And as I pointed out, this stuff was all created on the earlier models. Kega has this right, based on a real YM2612, which is, after all, what I'm trying to emula...

Seems I've got do some hardware recording... Battletech track 12, right ? Well It'd be interesting. Your machine(s) are heavily modified, right? If you can get something that sounds as bad as what Aamir posted, please do tell... I can tell you that it was not meant to sound like that. All GEMS stuf...

Never thought I would have to optimize the code someday :wink: I'd offer, but I don't much like PPC ;) well, according to Nemesis That's their way of eliminating the attack phase. When Rate = 62 or 63 during attack, the attack phase is skipped. MAME use this calculation to immediately force the res...

AamirM wrote:It is supposed to sound like this

No it isn't.

Where did that come from?